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Compensatory picks for 2025 announced:
6th round: 209, 214
7th round: 255
I hope the team hits on a dart throw.
Bosa to the Bills $13M
Best of luck to him there. Pretty good spot for where he’s at.
Engram is certainly the best one still available, unless Mark Andrews is let go.
@kathmandusteve I keep seeing Dallas Goedert on the market as well, but I think that is just rumor. The Eagles would take a significant cap hit trading him.
@kylededi Kyle, correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn’t that be a big cap hit for them in a trade?
@evolz3737 depends on what you consider big. He’s essentially a 17M cap hit for them now, 6M of which is prorated bonus (dead cap).
I don’t understand why so many people think the Ravens are waiting until the NLY to cut him (this isn’t meant to single anyone out here, this take is everywhere online).
The only advantage to waiting until the NLY to cut a player is you can designate the release as a post-June cut, which prevents future bonus allocations from accelerating to your current cap sheet, pushing those accelerations/dead cap into the following year. This is relevant for players with more than one year left on their contract, or players that have void years that have pushed cap into future years.
Andrews has neither, just a straight-up dead cap number of 6M in 2025, so there’s no benefit to waiting to cut him now vs cutting him weeks ago. It’d also be considered a dick move by the organization to not give him a head start in signing somewhere by dumping him a couple weeks ago – dropping him after the first wave of free agency has already commenced is not a real cool move for a franchise guy like Andrews (see how Bosa, Gus, etc were treated).
The Ravens may let him play put this year, extend him, restructure him so they can get a comp pick for him next year – or, if they really just want to move forward with Likely, they’ll trade him. I just see “release” as being thr last option.
With his 2025 salary being 11M for his new team if traded, I struggle to see how a team in the NFL wouldn’t trade for that contract. He seemed “off” post-car accident in the first half of the year, but he ended on a 6 touchdown in 6 games heater, and 11 total TDs on the season.
Maybe I’m off on this, but I would be absolutely shocked if he were cut outright.
@kylededi How about Goedert. I think his cap hit is high which makes him a weird trade candidate for Philly, unless you were referring to him in the first paragraph.
@evolz3737 Sorry Erick, when I was on my phone I didn’t really follow this well. Yes, my comments above are about Mark Andrews – he makes sense as a trade candidate.
Goedert has been rumored to be on the trade block, I’ve seen multiple reports from Philly insiders and Philly fans complaining that he’s on the block.
But I’m with you – I think Goedert’s dead cap makes it difficult. The only explanation I can provide for why they would trade him instead of cut him is they get so outside-the-box with their cap management and void years, they may be willing to take his 23M dead cap hit (which would net a loss of 9M since his savings would be about $14M), because they either:
- Assign a financial value to draft picks.
- or balance both cash and cap savings in their decision making.
My partner Josh Q did an amazing research piece on how how teams seem to value draft picks here. In he, he compiled tons of historical data to create a draft value chart based on financial values instead of “points” like all the current models use. In doing so, he’s able to use it to make sense of trades that involve players for picks.
Click the link to read the “how” if you’d like, but his research concluded that a 4th round pick was valued at $21.83M-15.37M in today’s numbers (spread across 4 years).
I’ll work on an article that explains how Roseman may elect to trade Goedert and eat the cap.
@kylededi I will read both as I find that approach fascinating. Thanks Kyle.
Here’s what I have Erick. Here’s a link to an article I’m posting to our Substack that covers why Howie might do it, and what the valuation might be.
Here’s the process we went through to come up with the chart. It’s a pretty awesome read… Josh completely led the way on it, I was just a voice in his ear. The guy is brilliant with this stuff. It covers how to transition player values to draft capital.
Here’s a copy of the chart, but it may be behind a paywall. I believe the other link isn’t.
@kylededi The last time I looked yesterday, the Ravens had the 4th lowest amount of cap space available, and it was not enough to even cover the in-season budget. Although I’m sure they can take various steps to clear cap space, that combined with having Likely is a reason why they might choose to move on from Andrews.
I understand your point about trade vs. release, and I think the Chargers should explore what it would take.
Now, “absolutely shocked” if he were cut outright might be a little strong. As you pointed out, it has been discussed extensively in the media, so I don’t think that should shock anyone if it actually happened.
@66_jimbo That’s okay, given the price tag. He wasn’t exactly the best fit anyway given his skill set matches QJ’s, his age, and not being that much of a blocking TE.
Troy Dye back is a good signing. Good depth and ST player but the real big news
STRIKE UP THE BAND REAGOR IS BACK BABY!!!!
Oh sweet baby Jesus, are we cooked? 🤣🤣🤣
I honestly wonder if Neimann and Dye were given the same offer (a deal just under compensatory value, with potential upside if they perform) and encouraged to explore the market.
Neimann got offer just above the threshold into 7th round compensation value, is allowed to leave.
Dye re-signs for just under.
Pure speculation, but follows a pattern.
A few guys that might be nice to add to the team that should now be in consideration. Heck it would be nice to get all these guys. I assume we still have the CAP space.
C-Myers (he and Boze can battle it out)
G-Becton, Jenkins
DT-Campbell (old but his stats always reflect a guy who can play)
Edge-Smith
WR-Moore and Allen
RB-Dobbins
Then draft Best Available on your board hope one of the top TE is available.
It’s funny that the perceived inaction is that the FO didn’t want to overpay, but there is a certain amount of $$ you must spend each year. So could it could come to pass that we might need to hand out a bunch of 1 year small overpays just to hit the cap floor? I mean after all we need to get to 90 players somehow.
@blue-beers Disagree it is likely that they will have to give out “a bunch of 1 year small overpays just to hit the cap floor.” The requirement is to hit 89% of the cap as a rolling 4 year window. That won’t be a problem.
@tau837 it’s not just to hit the floor but to fill out the roster with some vets. Most players left aren’t really worth signing to multi year deals so by default they’ll likely be one year or 2 years with a an easy out after 1.
@tau837 Tau, just as an aside, don’t you think that a rolling cycle of one year deals starts to become an endless loop at some point?
1. Sign one year deals
2. The players leave after one year creating yet another roster hole
3. Can’t spend big in FA with so many holes
4. Sign a bunch of one year deals
I mean it’s totally possible they have a 3-4 year roster build plan, but if that were the case, why were they so intent to create such cap space this year? If the main goal is comp picks keeping Bosa would have not created as big a roster hole at Edge and probably would have garnered a 4th Rd comp pick for him. It just doesn’t seem like this current approach to FA required such an aggressive attempt at cap space.
@evolz3737 I’m not convinced that there is some cap on the number of 1 year deals that is ideal or makes sense. 1 year deals create flexibility the next offseason. Flexibility is good. What has happened so far this offseason is that the team has sat on its flexibility rather than exercising it.
@evolz3737 Teams are allowed to go to 90 players in the offseason. They don’t have to do so. Though it makes sense to go to the max just to rotate reps and keep players healthy.
So let’s review where we are near the end of day 3 of FA:
Outgoing FAs and cuts
Bosa
Fulton
Ford
Niemann
Palmer
Edwards
Our FAs who do not appear to be coming back:
ASJ
Hurst
Dobbins
Chark
incoming FAs (not including our re-signs because they were here last year)
Harris
Jackson
St. Just
The re-signs are not included in the list because I want to compare last years team and the players lost in FA or cut with the new FAs signed.
Please let me know who I’m missing. My goal is not to duplicate KyleD’s great work on cancelling comp picks. I’m just trying to look at a very general level players going out and players coming in thru this FA period.
@unclejammsarmy I think you covered it all. Smartt is set to be a UFA. Hortiz never tendered him. So add 2 TE spots to needs.
I had to lookup St. Juste. I thought maybe he was the Patron Saint of Frugality….
😂
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