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Game Day Thread: Chargers vs Broncos

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(@unclejammsarmy)
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One other thing about last night’s game. I re-watched it after getting home. It is clear Tart is far, far better than Ottito. The Donkeys OLine couldn’t block him and he was getting into the backfield often. 

I’ve never understood why Ottito starts over Tart, but Tart has overtaken Ottito on snap counts and the team is slowly raising his snap counts, started the year in the mid teens and now at high 20’s. The only explanation I can think of is Tart’s conditioning doesn’t allow him to play more snaps. But the dude is absolutely wrecking plays. 


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(@unclejammsarmy)
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Serenading Donkeys fans last night. 


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Smith
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Haha! Three part harmony. Nice.


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(@pistol495)
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This was one of my favorite victories in a long time – probably since the KC TNF/MW81 2 point. Congrats to the boys for bouncing back and Herbert was just tremendous. Sooooooo….lets move on to everyone favorite subject:

OK Roman haters. You have time on your hands with our mini bye. Please list for me what you would do differently with this crap IOL and talent deficient WRs and RBs (Dobbins withstanding) plus gimpy QB for many games. I simply dont get it. Its so easy to point the finger at him.  Watching the ATL game live I saw what the tools looked like up close and personal. It was subpar on every level. My one complaint has been how he abandons the run on occasion too early but how do we not know if that JH10 checking out. 

EVERY year we all complain about the OC. EVERY YEAR! Look at Kellen Moore – he has a legit OL and that team is humming. Point me in the direction of an OC out there with similar talent doing it right

I come wanting to be educated and in peace. Not to stir the pot. Im a willing and capable listener BUT I will push back on soft arguments and there have been plenty out there on the web regarding Roman.

My take is hes doing the best he can with the tools he has (limited as they are). BTW hes not going anywhere. This idea that JH10 is getting a new OC every year is over

 


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@pistol495 The argument is always going to come down to hypotheticals because of the nature of injuries/signings/coaching decisions etc.

 

Things pre-season I would have wanted to see more of: Derius Davis in the offense and more spread formations to create light boxes. Nobody respects a team who doesn’t actually give the ball on certain pre-snap motion looks and DD has always been someone we should bring on the field every 5th play to do nothing more than speed down the seam on the Boundary. Knowing that you want to use Run-Heavy sets you’ve got to balance that out with the spread game.

 

Things that are dumb AF: 2 man-route options with 8 in Pass Pro; Heavy formations for injured RBs, Flood concepts with no depth on routes (leads to 1 man in space defending 2 players type stuff); too many slow skill players on the field on pass downs

 

I think signing Bozeman is a move that they should have known better about especially in relation to the Centers available in the draft. You don’t want to force things, but you also went into the season expecting Coaching to be able to change LG-C-RG while hoping Alt would be who he was. Only the rookie performed to expectation so on the whole, the OL being what it is comes down to the Coaches and Hortiz and that falls as much on Harbaugh now.

 


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@duck07 regarding the passing concepts, I think that expecting a scheme from Roman that optimizes Herbie’s talents is beyond Roman, despite the few, long-overdue adjustments in the last game. We all want a legitimate running game, that’s something good for the team. But when the chips are down, and it’s 3rd and long, you need great pass plays called to take advantage of one of the best passing QBs in the league.

In addition to upgrades on offense in the off season, Harbaugh needs to seriously ask himself if Roman is the best OC for Herbert and the team. If the answer is no, then he should make a change now, even though it sucks cycling to another new OC again. Herbie is in his prime. Let’s not waste any more years. 


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@duck07 Some great points thanks. But in the end you cant take advantage of the best QB in the league if hes hut or your IOL and RBs cant block. The Roman hate should really only come out when hes had the full complement of OL and skill players and the results are similar. We all know they wont be.

 

Sorry not sorry. Just dont think its as bad as Buck and UJA think it is


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Sorry not sorry but coaches are also responsible for maximizing their players rather than using an injury excuse.

If you need multiple starting caliber RBs to make your offense work, somethings wrong with it.

If you signed your chosen Center and he’s a liability, thats on you as a Coach too.

If you bring in zero outside help at WR, you better have a plan on how to maximize the talent you have.

The constant missing halves of football, that also falls on the coaches.


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@duck07 I agree. I just felt like we all knew this was year one of a larger plan. My expectations have been super low all year.  Thrilled to be where we are and I agree we could be better in all these facets that everyone has mentioned


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Buck Melanoma
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@duck07 this is exactly what I’ve been saying. You tailor your scheme to fit the players you have, not what you want. Roman hasn’t. Going, at one point, 6 quarters only scoring 2 points with Herbert as your QB is unacceptable.


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(@unclejammsarmy)
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So you come on here saying you don’t want to stir the pot, call out Roman haters, then proceed to defend him. Got it. 


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Buck Melanoma
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Yeah….my in-depth analysis? Fuck Roman and his outdated offense. John Harbaugh knew to get rid of him.


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(@unclejammsarmy)
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@buck-melanoma I meant my comment for that other guy. Agree with what you said. 👍


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Buck Melanoma
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@unclejammsarmy oh I know. I guess I shoulda replied to him specifically. Meant it to just reinforce my “Roman hate” …. lol.


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@unclejammsarmy Calm down – Im just trying to get to the bottom of why you guys are so fired up about it. 

Definitely not defending him


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