EL SEGUNDO, CA – AUGUST 04: Los Angeles Chargers linebacker Bud Dupree (48) during the Los Angeles Chargers-Rams joint training camp on August 04, 2024, at The Bolt in El Segundo, CA. (Photo by Jevone Moore/Icon Sportswire)

We take a look at how each of the defensive players did against the Seattle Seahawks and evaluate how Jesse Minter’s defense looked on its first outing.

The Los Angeles Chargers kicked off the Jim Harbaugh era with their first game of the 2024 season against the NFC West opponents; Mike MacDonald’s Seattle Seahawks. Preseason games, especially the first one of the season, can be rough and this was no exception as the Bolts failed to score a touchdown losing 16-3. This was mostly down to a dismal display by the offense (which we will get to later in the week) but the defense held their own, limiting the Seahawks to 4.1 yards per play despite the opposition having almost 40 minutes of possession.

First of all let’s take a look at how the players graded out. The way I do this is not to watch every player on every snap but to note when they impacted the play in a positive way or a negative way and then assess their impact on the game overall by using a Net Score Per Play (NSPP) metric. This is a simple way of evaluating their performance without it being distorted by their statistical output. The players have been ranked by their NSPP in the table below:

PlayerSnap CountPositive PlaysNegative PlaysNet Score Per PlayNotes
Bud Dupree620+0.333Fits Minter’s system very well including looking fluid in coverage where he even managed to climb up to put off a sideline throw from his flats zone.
Tuli Tuipulotu1830+0.167Dominant against these backups in run fits, coverage and pass rush, he has nothing to prove at this level.
Morgan Fox610+0.167Had a fantastic run stop on his only drive
Kristian Fulton610+0.167Showcased his instincts to peel off for a stop on a play where he had two men to cover in the flats
Micheal Mason1431+0.143Came in towards the end of the game and after a few nervous snaps he settled down and ended the game with two fantastic run stops. He surely earned more playing time next week.
Tarheeb Still3573+0.114Played the slot well with aggressive play winning attitude especially in the apex rush lanes (blitz work included) but needs to be sharper in tackling as he missed 3 tackles. He has earned some snaps earlier in the games going forwards and it was interesting to see him lined up at safety.
Otito Ogbonnia1842+0.111His raw ability is the best of the interior young players but his awareness lets him down; he got a play call wrong and he needs to get his eyes up to see combo blocks coming. Impressive overall though.
Tre’Mon Morris-Brash3342+0.061I came away impressed by the combination of brute strength, motor and movement skills, he is technically far away from being a starter but he should certainly make the roster with this level of play.
Scott Matlock4553+0.044Solid in most areas but his balance is still an issue as he was on the floor a lot in the first half and he has to finish plays better. He also showed a good understanding of angles on pass stunts that fits Minterโ€™s scheme.
Jerrod Clarke2521+0.040
JT Woods5142+0.039Plays at a great speed including early diagnosis and confident downhill pursuit but his tackling is still a big problem. He is very slightly ahead of where he was in preseason last year before his mysterious absence but he is still not close to being a contributor on Sundays.
Chris Collins2921+0.034
Nick Neimann6153+0.033Played poorly against the backups/starters in the early quarters especially in coverage but looked dominant in the run game against the reserves, nice depth piece to have but I hope he doesnโ€™t have to start any games. He also showed good speed on blitzes.
Deane Leonard4943+0.023Really doesnโ€™t seem comfortable in off-coverage, struggles to feel the cushion and let it close naturally but he has a positive downhill approach in the run game that can be impactful with some tuning on angles.
AJ Finley4343+0.023He was often around the ball in pursuit coming from off his perch but I would like to see his deep coverage skills become a bit tighter as we get closer to the season opener.
Matt Hankins5610+0.018The fact that I didn’t have a lot to note about a corner who played the majority of the game is a good thing. Until Cam Hart is healthy I would say he’s locked in as the OCB4.
Shane Lee39330.000Absolute non-factor in pass coverage, really far below standard here but on inside run fits he has a nice profile, one of the few in the unit that can slam the A gap shut and had a nice goal line stop in this style.
Andrew Farmer34000.000
Ty Shelby33220.000
Justin Eboigbe30220.000Mixed debut, started off slow but settled into it gradually. He looked strong overall and created some pushback to affect rush lane but he got his gap reads wrong a couple of times from this position.
Akeem Dent20220.000
Tony Jefferson19110.000It doesn’t appear that his age or time off have affected him physically in comparison to the reserves he played with/against but the time away from football has affected his mental processing skills, I expect this to improve with time.
Zamari Walton16110.000
Chris Wilcox 10000.000
Asante Samuel Jr6000.000
Alohi Gilman6000.000
Robert Kennedy5000.000
Poona Ford5000.000
Jalyn Phillips5000.000
Jaโ€™sir Taylor3212-0.031I like Taylor as a slot in a different system but I just donโ€™t see how he is meant to fit the run or blitz as someone in his role needs to in Minterโ€™s scheme. I think he will lose snaps as the season goes on.
Troy Dye 4335-0.047His lightweight frame is a liability mainly because he knows he canโ€™t engage with climbing lineman and it makes it hard to fit runs with him as an inside linebacker. I’d want to see him in a reduced role next game.
Daiyan Henley2123-0.047Flashes athletic skills but he freezes his feet in run fits when playing between the tackles and doesnโ€™t have a feel for spot drops just yet even if his man coverage has really improved. If he can rep more at the Will spot I think he can focus his run reads with more clarity.
Thomas Harper2001-0.050
Chris Rumph1212-0.083Rumph looked great in the run game before his injury but his pass rush arsenal is still limited despite entering his fourth season and when he gets inside the linemanโ€™s chest he canโ€™t do anything to counter due to his lack of core strength.
Christopher Hinton4604-0.087I remain unconvinced by Hinton and donโ€™t see what he adds to this roster, really needs to improve his physicality as he gets blown off the line.
CJ Okoye501-0.200

The biggest takeaways I had from spending a good few hours combing over the defensive tape are:

  • Minter has, so far, stuck to the base groupings he showed at Michigan;
    • He stuck with his standard fronts; running a 2-4-5 with the mix up being the 3-4-4 which was used a lot more in the second half. This is just a small part of his arsenal of looks.
    • The secondary was mostly ran out of nickel but he did have a few dime looks to counter the spread formations on 3rd and long, he didn’t have the players to run his big dime but there were three safety sets
  • Coverages were mostly simple, they showed Man, Cover 3, C1 Robber, Cover 4 and Cover 2 Palms however there were some exotic shifts post snap but this was more to confuse the blocking on sim blitzes. They alternated the coverage disguises from MOFO to MOFC and the reverse but again, there is a much deeper playbook that is yet to be seen.
  • However Jesse showed a fair bit of his hand with his blitz concepts. He sent pressure from everywhere and it wasn’t just on third downs, he really turned the dial up in this area and fans should be excited by what they saw
    • He sent pressure from off ball linebackers, safeties and corners from both the box and from the apexes. His pressure packages ranged from simple 4 + 1 calls to 7 man games with split field twists and combination stunts. The most surprising thing was that I’m not sure I saw the same look twice so this speaks to his belief in fluid rules that mean the playing blitzing is based on the offensive formation rather than a pre-ordained player. This is the system that made the Ravens the #1 defense in 2023 so it’s great to see it being executed well already.
    • For all his flaws I thought the pass rush package that Staley had in his final year was pretty accomplished and well designed, this actually resulted in the Chargers finishing 7th in the league in sacks. So for Minter to show about three times as many different pressure packages than Staley did even in his most aggressive moments last season, in the very first preseason game, speaks to how this team will attack the Quarterback this season. According to PFF he sent 28 pressures from off ball players which is an absolutely insane rate.
  • One wrinkle I really liked to see was that when an offensive player motioned into the box the coverage, the player following him auto-checked into a blitz and the pass responsibilities shifted to the outside edge. This is basically saying “If you think you’re getting a numerical blocking advantage here, you were very much mistaken”. It was a very successful tactical move and resulted in multiple pressures.
  • There were also some run bitzes thrown in for some extra fun. These have lost popularity especially in west coast teams but I would welcome its return rather than run fits being a purely reactive part of the game.
  • All of this was with no personnel rotation mid-drives, not even on third down, this will very likely change in the regular season so imagine this kind of all out attack but with the most dangerous pass rushing specialists having fresh legs. Oh boy this could be an exciting brand of football.

Some other notes I had:

  • The edge group are going to be asked to cover a lot so it begs the question what role Bosa is going to play because he was less than fluent (being polite) in coverage whenever Staley’s system asked him to do it. Both Tuli and Bud Dupree looked at ease getting underneath out breaking routes and Mack has shown he can do this well so maybe this will mean Bosa will kick inside more often than he has before.
  • The communication was outstanding for a mashup of starters, backup and reserves. The adjustments came quickly without heads turning and it seemed everyone was in sync. This was very positive to see this in the first preseason game so it is clear that Minter and his staff have installed the system well.

Overall I came away impressed by both the front seven and the secondary. They faced one of the best backup QB group in the league in Howell and PJ Walker and the margins they had to find were tougher than they should have been. At least one side of the ball was impressive in my eyes, some players clearly have work to do to make the roster and others may be in danger of being unexpectedly surpassed. There are genuine signs that the new scheme has been installed successfully as it proved a handful for Seattle to handle and that is with half the playbook to work with, let’s hope we continue to see growth over the next two games and leading into to the regular season.

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Tui
Tui(@tui1hit)
1 year ago

Excelente, Ryan! Muchas gracias
Fun to be able to compare notes, Ryan, but yours are more thorough and perhaps cover more areas and depths of course. I won’t do this again since you’re doing it and doing it better, but since I have already written these notes down, I though I should share it anyway. Plus, I donโ€™t have access to All-22 or other film study sites. What I get from an actual televised game is where I form my thoughts and opinions on plays and players.
From the preseason game (my notes are biased towards LBs and defense):

Troy Dye: Dye played the whole first half and then was replaced by Shane Lee. Early in the first half Henley and Dye dropped back too deep beyond the first-down marker into the safetyโ€™s zone where passes went for 1st It happened at least twice. In one play, Dye didnโ€™t stay with his assignment on the RB before he realized hit but has given him almost 15 yards of cushion already which resulted in a first down to Seattle on a wide swing pass to the RB. He played better in the open field than in traffic where he lacks the strength, technique to shed blocking, and played too tall. He got stood up by the RB (Holani of the Seahawks) and was no match for the TE he went up against. In one particular play where the QB scrambled for a first down thru the middle, Dye was at the Mike spot and instead of jamming the RB to set himself up to make a play on the QB, he got screened instead. Dye had some bright moments but they werenโ€™t enough. Heโ€™s got some areas to improve in including playing strength, pad level playing, and play recognition. I think heโ€™s a better fit as a backup at the Will spot behind Henley and Niemann, but not at the Mike spot where Denzel and Colson will share time. It could be that Minter just wanted to see Dye playing to evaluate his playing ability against the 1s and 2s.

Henley: I think he showed a lot of what he is capable of and expected of him. Heโ€™s instinctive, a solid tackler, and physical enough in traffic against blocking even though a little hesitant at times thru his gap assignments. He isnโ€™t quite physical as Denzel or Jr Colson to be expected but the Will spot is best suited for him. He is a sideline-to-sideline backer with excellent coverage skills to be excited about, and heโ€™s a good communicator.
Niemann: Heโ€™s a capable Will-LB2 behind Henley. I love how low his pad level is when heโ€™s on the field. For a 6โ€™-3โ€ (244 lbs) guy, he plays low like heโ€™s 5โ€™-10โ€. Heโ€™s got excellent speed. But he just needs to play loose more and not being trigger-shy when it comes to tackling when he has the advantage over the ball carrier. He would be the first to tell us he had a brain fart on the second play he was in to replace Henley. On Seattleโ€™s TD pass to the TE, Niemann hesitates to launch at the TE for an easy tackle from a side angle on the target but instead he rushes up to bear tackle him, the TE instead had just the time he needed to fake a forward lean then a back spin to make him miss. Once you have the side angle on a ball carrier, you canโ€™t be trigger-shy to launch while in range. One second you give a ball carrier is an advantage youโ€™ve ceded.
Tuli: I agreed. Heโ€™s got nothing more to prove. Even with Mack and Bosa, I think Tuli will have a monster season this year in Minterโ€™s defense. Heโ€™s got a different switch that he turns on when he is up against a real opponent. He looks even more decisive and explosive this year. Him and Bosa to alternate on the inside from the edge is something to watch this year.

ย  ย  ย  ย  ย Iโ€™m biased for sure since Iโ€™ve met Tuli and his family before he was a Charger and last met them at their churchโ€™s annual national-wide conference in Riverside, California in April this year. I did the civil and structural engineering for their church headquarter in Riverside where they host their annual conference. I have since been an invited guest to their annual festival, a part of their conference gathering for over 5 years now. Not only that, I got to know Tuliโ€™s father Niu thru a cousin of mine who used to employ Tuliโ€™s dad and attended the same church with Tuliโ€™s family. Tuliโ€™s dad last year said he would get me and my cousin some tickets to the game. Not sure when those tickets would show up. 😆ย 
ย  ย  ย  ย  I found it funny, the older women and some of Tuliโ€™s aunts at the festival still tell Tuli at the end of the festival to carry their stuff and load them up in their vehicles every year, which Tuli did willingly with โ€œyes auntyโ€ and a smile. Tuli and his brother (Marlon) who is with the Philadelphia Eagles were taking down the all the big tents and loading them up on a flatbed truck. Tuli is a humble kid from a very good family.

Shane Lee: He came in to replace Troy Dye in the 2nd half. I agree, he didnโ€™t show much in either the run and passing defense. It might be too early, but I didnโ€™t see anything to make me think there is role for him in this defense. The coverage skill isnโ€™t there. Heโ€™ll be lucky to get a spot in the PS.
ย Treโ€™mon Morris-Brash: He was a player I have been excited about since OTA. For how well he has proven himself as a solid backup OLB, it makes me to think heโ€™s making the 53-man roster barring injury of course. Which means, Minter would carry 5 OLBs and 5 IDL unlike Staleyโ€™s defense which carried 4 OLBs and 6 IDLs while Tuli and Rumph also played SP with an injury prone Joey Bosa, while 2 IDL never once left the bench. Kyle Van Noy left unsigned to sign with the Ravens.
Morgan Fox: Could have his best season from the 5-tec / 3-tec spot in Minterโ€™s defense. He stood out in just a couple of plays. He lined up from the 3-tec and immediately got thru the line to make the play. ย ย ย 
Ogbonnia: In limited snaps in the first half, I thought he was dominating. He showed a lot in his rookie season, but with the injury last year, I was expecting him to show a lot more this year. If he stays healthy, heโ€™s another to have a solid season. He could become the real DT Minter is looking for to pair up with Ford at NT. From what Iโ€™ve seen from the others, it is Otitoโ€™s starting job to lose.
CJ Okoye:ย  CJ went in for just a couple of plays in the last 3 minutes of the game. I thought he and Clark pushed the middle of the pocket well to stop the inside run attempts. CJ is too talented, very athletic, too powerful, and a giant of a man not to get more playing opportunity for his growth in the defense. I hope heโ€™ll get more opportunity to play in the last 2 preseason games. He should be able to grasp the IDL role quickly now in his 2ndย season as suppose to playing OL which is harder to learn especially for someone who had never played the game or position before. ย 
Bosa: Joey once said at the beginning of training camp that he is not expecting to drop back to cover in this new defense. It sounds like Bosa will be providing inside pass rush when the play calls for one or both of the edge rushers to drop into coverage.
ย Minterโ€™s Defense: ย For someone who loves defense, Minterโ€™s defense and play calling have me so pumped up now for the season to start already even though there is still a big question mark at IDL. The defensive back unit has made me to believe itโ€™s better than the below average rating I had given them before training camp. The safeties with James and Gilman as anchors, itโ€™s a solid unit. I hope Tony Jefferson makes the roster. He lacks straight line speed but plays fast still. Youโ€™re only as fast as you process plays, play anticipation, and playing with confidence. Thatโ€™s something he possessed over the others. ย ย ย 
Romanโ€™s Offense: Romanโ€™s preseason offense supposed to be a simple, straight forward offense. BUT I expected it to have a better showdown against a Mike Macdonald’s defense after seeing Minterโ€™s defense everyday in practice, which has a lot of similarities and same philosophy. To me it was very disappointing. The IOL is still a big question mark. The small sample size from Pipkins wasnโ€™t very encouraging and I hope Bozeman isnโ€™t a rag doll like Jaimes who Bryon Murphy consistently buried behind the LOS with Murphyโ€™s own name and photo on his tombstone. ย 

Tui
Tui(@tui1hit)
Reply to  Ryan Watkins
1 year ago

Thank you Ryan. I’ll be sure to ask Tuli next time I get to see him. I will be seeing Tuli’s family in a community function late September, but it would be hard to catch Tuli now until after the season, unless I go with Tuli’s uncle or dad to his mid week training at the Bolt. This gives me an idea since I haven’t been to the new training facility yet.ย 
Man, I can’t wait for your breakdown of Minter’s pressure packages. I hope you’ll find a way to show them soon. I’m so pumped up about this defense under Minter’s scheme and defensive philosophy. Four players with 10 sacks each and 60-sack season? Wow, that would be something. Barring injury, I think this defense can be at the top in the sack & QB pressure department this year.ย  ย 

TDU_Alister
TDU_Alister(@alisterlloyd)
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1 year ago

@ryanwatkinsย 

Dude this is awesome work, to do all of this from the broadcast angle is very impressive!ย 

This is what I was thinking too  Tui! My first watch on the broadcast is usually just for enjoyment so I find a lot of my focus is on the QB/OL/DL at least until the ball gets thrown. Well done for picking those things at the second and third levels.

Tui
Tui(@tui1hit)
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1 year ago

@alisterlloydย 
Thank you Alister. It would have been more fun to have access to the overhead films of the game. I’m going to sign up for All-22. But my question to you and Ryan: Does All-22 show the overhead views of the whole game?ย 

TDU_Alister
TDU_Alister(@alisterlloyd)
Reply to  Tui
1 year ago

 Tui Here’s an example of the two views you get on All-22 mate (at least from our DAZN subscription): https://twitter.com/TDU_Chargers/status/1730058433360281823

Tui
Tui(@tui1hit)
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1 year ago

@alisterlloydย 
Awesome, Alister. Thank you! I’m impressed. I need to move up from the old slide projector to today’s technology. :))

FoutsMFIC
FoutsMFIC(@foutsmfic)
Reply to  Tui
1 year ago

Impressive Tui! The more I hear about Tuli, the more I am a fan of his. The most important thing that I am taking away from you and Ryan (I couldn’t watch the game) is that everyone seemed to mostly know what they were doing in this defense. That alone is a significant improvement over Staley’s defense.

FoutsMFIC
FoutsMFIC(@foutsmfic)
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1 year ago

One add on about Tuli. I see equivalency between him and the rookie sensation for the Padres, Jackson Merrill. Both are young, uber-talented, humble, and play with a passion that comes from a true love of the game.

Tui
Tui(@tui1hit)
Reply to  FoutsMFIC
1 year ago

Thank you FoutsMFIC! Appreciate you for taking the time to read it. For sure, Minter’s defense is a real deal. I haven’t been more excited about this defense before.ย  Yes..go Padres!! Jackson Merrill is a real stud, a young superstar in the making. A real hype in town for how the Padres have been playing. A real tight race in the NL west for 4 teams but hope for the Padres to finish at the top of the division.

Buck Melanoma
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1 year ago

 FoutsMFIC he’s my lunch pail guy. 🙂

Spanos Must Go
Spanos Must Go(@spanos-must-go)
1 year ago

Wow!!!ย  This is an awesome write up!ย  Very much appreciate this level of work Ryan!ย  I watched a lot of Michigan football and I would agree that we should be in for some exciting pressure both in the run game and pass game.ย  As Hortiz/Harbaugh build this team it will be a tougher defense to deal with for the other 31 clubs.ย  I’m ready to move on from a few players that either can’t stay healthy or just can’t produce.ย  Players like Chris Rumph Jr. and Chris Hinton for starters.ย  They are already topped out and not difference makers.ย  I am sure that Harbaugh and his staff will keep the right roster.ย  I am also thinking that there may be 1-2 players added after teams cut to 53.ย  And I would expect one in-season trade.ย  The roster will start to turn.

TDU_Alister
TDU_Alister(@alisterlloyd)
1 year ago

Fantastic breakdown,  Ryan Watkins. Keep ’em coming!
I can’t get access in Australia to the All-22 for preseason games. From your breakdown, I was most interested to read your (somewhat down) evaluation of Troy Dye’s game, because on the broadcast view I thought he flashed as probably the best player for the Chargers Defense in the first half. He was often around the ball and playing with energy. Apart from that one outlier, your notes align pretty perfectly with what I was noticing watching the game. And I was particularly excited to see the starters like Fulton, Fox and Tuli look so accomplished before they were taken out of the game early. Promising debut for Coach Minter for sure.ย 

TDU_Alister
TDU_Alister(@alisterlloyd)
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1 year ago

 Ryan Watkins Yes, we are sadly in the hands of the DAZN overlords here in Australia. And the viewing experience is a criminal combination of poor quality, lag, buffering and eveything else upsetting you could imagine. Their customer service is virtual only and I’ve tried making suggestions about improving the user experience. It falls upon deaf ears. At least they provide All-22 access during regular season (a plus). But you can only rewind/fast forward in ten second increments, accompanied by a slow buffer each time, so even that struggles to be honest. Ah well. Overseas fans are second-class citizens in the NFL’s eyes (sadly). NFL Gamepass was a far superior experience.
Good comments on Troy Dye. A lot of what you’ve said there is stuff that’s hard to pick-up from the broadcast angle, so I just saw a guy who covered ground well and was generally around the ball. I trust your take over what I saw from my inferior vantage point.
Keep up the great work.

TDU_Alister
TDU_Alister(@alisterlloyd)
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1 year ago

 Ryan Watkins We are very much cut from the same cloth 🤣 I’ve had between 5-10 separate text-box chats with DAZN staff (probably based in the Philippines and who’ve never watched the sport before) explaining why showing me the end of game stats when I click into a broadcast to watch on delay (and am trying to avoid spoilers) is NOT a good user experience. I also noticed that they’d cleared last year’s All-22! As the immortal Vince Lombardi would say, “What the hell is going on here?!”
Looking forward to the next PowderKeg ep, and maybe we can try for a crossover show before Wk 1. See if we can line these time-zone differences up!
ย 

TDU_Alister
TDU_Alister(@alisterlloyd)
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1 year ago

 Ryan Watkins Are you also in the legal profession?! I must confess I spent most of my time defending actions when I worked at one of our big law firms in Aus 🤣 But for DAZN I would happily make an exception. Nowadays I’m an in-house Counsel so I’ve moved from litigation into more of a corporate advisory role. Way friendlier hours for the family, that’s for sure. In fact, I don’t think I could be a podcaster if I’d stayed at a big firm.
Let’s take this offline with Kyle but I think we could make something work potentially in the dead week before Wk 1. Jack lives in Hobart. Andy and I live in Melbourne. But it’s all the same time zone for us so you’re showcasing a decent Australian knowledge to start. If you were willing to record late on a Saturday evening before you head out to Printworks or similar 😉 (perhaps a big ask), that would line up nicely with our Sunday morning and Kyle’s Saturday afternoon. There’s at least a possibility to explore there.

TDU_Alister
TDU_Alister(@alisterlloyd)
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1 year ago

 Ryan Watkins If you’re not a lawyer, maybe I can prepare the paperwork and you can be the lead plaintiff for the class :-p

FoutsMFIC
FoutsMFIC(@foutsmfic)
Reply to  Ryan Watkins
1 year ago

Time for my vocabulary lesson. Ryan, what do you mean when writing “run fits”? And what is DAZN?

FoutsMFIC
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1 year ago

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