
Each week I will be reviewing the game in a format I like to call Tale of the Tape. ESPN have a segment with the same title and it has forever been a pet peeve of mine because all they do is list the key statistics and that is by literal definition; not the tale of the tape. I will probably end up tweaking the format for these as it took way too long to write this all up and this community deserves analysis earlier in the week! That said, let’s get to the tape and see how our boys in powder blue did on the offensive side of the ball.
Summary:
I came away from the All-22 feeling better than I did on Sunday night, which was a relief. My biggest fear before turning on the film was that Greg Romanโs concepts were just not effective and we would be in for a long season full of questions over what they can do differently scheme-wise. That was not the case for the most part; this was a matter of player execution, still-developing synergies and missed opportunities.
Overall unit grade: C+
The Quarterback
I think Herbert played pretty well overall, despite facing consistent interior pressure yet he moved the ball quickly enough to negate this. He had to make some really tough throws by standing in the pocket and taking the licks that come with that. His resilience is such an underrated quality in him. There were very few missed throws and in reality he did almost enough to call it a good game but there were some areas of his game where you can tell he isn’t quite comfortable with the offense yet. The first is the checks and changes, he is not the master of GRo’s ship just yet and that is very much expected, it took Lamar years to get to the point of full control. The next one is that he hasn’t got a connection with any of his receivers, he doesn’t trust them to get open and his lack of patience meant chances were missed for a better day.ย
Here are my notes on his performance:
- Herbert has to make the most of his passing opportunities, on a play in the 2nd quarter he saw Cover 2-man (or Cover 5) after the snap and that the running back swing route was left open which he hit but Palmer was winning his slot fade match-up which, granted, would have been clouded by the split field safety however he had a decent chance to hit this with a lot of the boundary space to throw the ball into.
- I’m going to say something here; I am starting to think that Herbert should have less power to check out of pass plays and into run plays going forwards. I don’t think he’s got many right over his career and in this game I think he got zero correct from what I can see on tape although he did change the strength correctly on one of JK’s long run plays. There was one particularly frustrating call where he checked to a run with a few seconds left on the play clock. He did this in max-protect which is never a smart move because your lineman can’t fire off on the ball to take advantage of numbers advantage. Itโs about more than what the defense is presenting plus if he read Man coverage (which I think is why he checked to run) then he should have realized that the tight end would have held the safety leaving Ladd was in an isolated match-up in a tonne of space to the wide side of the field.
- I am so mad at Palmer for dropping that beautiful ball which should have been a touchdown, that was a throw very few can make. The timing, positioning and layering on the ball were all incredible but it was the anticipation that the safety would stay wide enough to give him that window, that put this throw into the elite category. It would have changed the whole narrative for this game had it landed.
- Herbertโs tendency to scan one side the field so quickly means he misses late opening routes from his first read side. I think Roman has to find a way to slow him down or have quick hitters to one side and slow breakers to the other. Ladd was getting open on an in-breaking route vs a linebacker when he attempted the back-of-the-end-zone throw to Hurst who wasn’t on the same page. This would have been a touchdown if he had spotted it, he had the time to do so as well.
- The back pylon throw to McConkey (see the video above) was a beauty! Iโm mad at Ladd for looking too early as this would have landed in his lap if he carried on running. To do this under pressure from a free rusher is just insane especially as he had about half a second to look that way and read the coverage.
- The โmistakeโ throw (shown below) from Herbert that was almost a pick is entirely on Palmer in my opinion. Both Palmer and Justin could see the corner climbing from his flats zone and he still wanted Herbert to hit the sideline ball instead of sitting his route down. That was a good pass that maybe could have come a tick earlier but it was plenty good enough for a completion.
Quarterback Grade: B-
The Receivers
- Will Dissly: C-
- Dissly hasn’t built chemistry with the offensive line yet and to be honest he didn’t exactly show the individual blocking prowess that had been advertised to us by the coaches. Aside from his false starts penalties, he was caught out on an obvious hold and he completely missed the slot blitz on a sift block which led to Herbert being hit. In fact I actually think he was benched early in the second half but he served his time and returned later in the game.
- He deserves some redemption love for the block he made on Maxx Crosby; took his off ball rush to the chest and stood it up! Not many tight ends could do this.
- Although he did miss the block the next play that killed the run before it could get going.
- Ladd McConkey: B
- I think this was about what I was expecting from ‘our Ladd’ (a pun for those with knowledge of the northern English term of endearment). His route running improved with every rep and by the 3rd quarter he was shaking free from everyone however it wasn’t a perfect day out as he got bullied when he wasn’t able to get a free release off the line.
- I am worried about Ladd’s play-weight though, he gets thrown off routes very easily with slight contact. It will be interesting to see him against pro press defenders as luckily thatโs not what he came across on his debut.
- He also needs to get a better feel for the sticks, twice he came too far back to the ball. You have a cyborg throwing lasers now, not Stetson Bennett, you’ll have the time you need to haul it in.
- Ladd burned Moehrig with a nasty move to open up a pocket inside, Herbert’s going to trust him very soon if he keeps manipulating coverage like this.
- Quentin Johnston: B
- QJโs usage in this game exactly how to get the most out of his unique skill set. Please keep getting him the ball with his long open strides. The flack he caught all of last season appears to have made him more tough-nosed as he was flying into contact which is a quality he didn’t show at TCU.
- The bullet slant throw he caught was wild considering how much pressure he was under from the trailing defender. QJโs balance is underrated to catch that and to keep moving at speed is incredible but then to throw in the spin definitely piqued my interest.
- Joshua Palmer: D+
- For a player of Palmer’s experience he was disappointing when it came to the details. His lack of attention to coverage rolls is not something you want to see in a player who was meant to start the season as the WR1. His injury history may have cost him some time on task with Justin but you would still expect to see a better connection, Herbert put him in the position to have a big impact on this game and he let the side down.
- Hayden Hurst: A-
- Hayden Hurst is a reliable set of hands (3.9% career drop rate) and Roman used him well but Herbert was very conservative in terms of taking chances in Hurstโs direction so he didn’t connect with him nearly as often as he should have I think this will change very soon but it wasn’t ideal to see such a disconnect. This is why I gave him a lofty grade as it happened FOUR times in this game in critical moments:
- 1. On a rollout where he just didn’t feel he could make the throw to his tight end who was running up the hash mark line (he definitely could have).
- 2. Herbert missed a wide open touchdown opportunity to Hurst on the next play after the Palmer drop, he went through his progressions too quickly and skipped over the linebacker who was turning his back to follow the crosser. This left a big window to hit.ย
- 3. He had Hurst on a corner route into the Cover 2 hole which is a route you take a shot on especially with a size advantage to exploit but Justin thought the corner back was too high and checked down to Dobbins for a short gain instead.
- 4. Hayden was opening on a designed Cover 2 beater, his crossing route paired with QJ sitting in tight to the LB to take him away from the underneath zone, meant this was open if he waited another half second and the protection was perfect so he could have.
- Hayden Hurst is a reliable set of hands (3.9% career drop rate) and Roman used him well but Herbert was very conservative in terms of taking chances in Hurstโs direction so he didn’t connect with him nearly as often as he should have I think this will change very soon but it wasn’t ideal to see such a disconnect. This is why I gave him a lofty grade as it happened FOUR times in this game in critical moments:
Overall Receivers Grade: B-
The Protectors
- Zion Johnson: D
- I was not a fan of what he put on tape this week. Not at all. Zion was a solid, if not impressive, player whose biggest weakness was that he didn’t see stunts or have the hip speed to adjust to them. Yet now he has seemingly made more problems for himself and shown no growth in the one area he should have. I know he has turned himself into a beast under Duke Manyweatherโs guidance however he played under such a mature level of control in college so this drastic change of approach seems to have sent him backwards.
- When he is forced out of his base stance his footwork isn’t great, he’s got bigger but he looks tighter for it.
- He got swum time and time again, he really needs to start punishing these open rib shots to curtail their usage in the future.
- Zion missed a stunt by trying to be a mauler in pass pro a few times, when the ball is in Justinโs hands, winning the rep means keeping the pocket intact, not driving someone backwards.
- He also needs to drive his feet on zone blocks; he sat still and allowed Adam Butler to peak and shut down the intended gap in an outside zone concept.ย
- Bradley Bozeman: D–
- Bozeman’s pass pro was rough in terms of protection calls and his individual blocking. Justin has always relied on his Center to call the protection but it was a mess in the first half and he was luckily saved even more embarrassment by the Raiders running out of gas in the hot conditions.
- He called a 5-0 protection against a heavy interior front and it left JK having to choose between two defenders when the Raiders sent an extra linebacker and Justin ended up being hit.
- I don’t get why Bozeman set up a fan pass pro against a loaded front, a half slide or full side is surely the right call here.
- Bozeman needs to do better at clearing out on pulls, just had no impact on Crosby despite a full run up.
- Trey Pipkins: C+
- Summary; Pipkinsโ work in pass iso blocks wasn’t too bad but his work on the move and his ability to pick up stunts leaves a lot to improve on. For a Tackle moving inside it wasn’t the worst start but man has it got to improve to be a long term answer next to Alt.
- He doesn’t generate force on pull blocks as he stoops down and he even got flattened by Spillane who he has about 100 lbs on (leverage wins). He also doesn’t have the leg drive to clear guys out at his size, he gets to the top and gets stuck
- On down blocks he just buries his head and hopes his size will win, itโs just really poor guard play.
- Trey also got away multiple false starts, he was moving before the ball on at least three occasions.
- Joe Alt: A-
- I don’t need to add anything to the Joe Alt Delete folklore at this point. His abilities are unknown to any Chargers fan; We have never seen an OT who can match power, speed and reach for anything he wants to all whilst having incredible recovery skills and the feet/hips of a slot receiver. That said he wasn’t perfect against the run where he learned some important lessons in leverage control.
- The first rep I saw Joe Alt lose was against Christian Wilkins where he uses his size against him, he leaned too hard and gave his leverage up but heโll learn from this.
- He lost another on a Guard lead power concept, he base blocked the B gap instead of reach blocking and sealing the C gap.
- Rayshawn Slater: A-
- I had no notes with his name on it from my first watch which is always a wonderful sign for a lineman but there were a couple of plays where he lost his leverage. The one that stood out was in the redzone where JK tried to bounce outside and he had lost control over Snowden on the edge and the back’s smart effort was halted.
Overall Protectors Grade: C-
The Backs
- Gus Edwards: C-
- I am not panicking about his performance however I think he has lost some juice, if he’s still in recovery then okay we’ll look for improvement but he gets very little burst off of his backfoot when cutting upfield. He didnโt seem to be able to vary his tempo to match the lineโs blocks either. More time will tell what we can expect from him coming off his still undefined injury.
- He did all the dirty work against stacked boxes so that JK could shine against lighter ones, this is the type of selflessness Harbaugh covets but I always wonder how long players can keep their pride intact enough to support their team mates in this way.
- JK Dobbins: A
- What a difference a proper running back can make to your offense. His blend of footwork, balance, vision and burst means he can expose creases like no Charger has been able to since prime Melvin Gordon. His two long runs were simple plays but his efficiency between the gap opening up and him cutting into it makes him a threat defenses will have to account for. His RYOE (rush yards over expected) numbers were elite because of his open field ability too, he erased an angle Moehrig had on him in a way that gets me excited!
- The fitness clearly isn’t there yet but it was Week 1 with no preseason whilst a heatwave was bearing down on a guy who was used to the chill of a Maryland Fall this time last year. So I’ll hope to see an improvement to take these long runs to the house.
- JK’s pass protection was immense too, I was way too excited when he stepped up the hole to meet a free running linebacker.
Overall Backs Grade: B+
Scheme Notes
Scheme:
- The two-man route combo out of max-protect that GRo rolled out vs Cover 3 was a nice way to manipulate numbers. Ladd did well to set up the comeback by threatening both the robber and the outside before sinking down and Herbert obliged with a well timed ball. This is the stuff that will keep drives going especially as it was a tendency breaker on 1st down.
- If you go into max-protect too often teams will check to more man coverage calls, this will invite pressure so your routes need to be quick man beaters to act as relievers. Roman had these in place but they rarely came available because of how quickly the line gave up interior pressure even in these heavy looks.
- The pass pro across the line was actually really good when they just had to base block against four lineman. It was not a physical talent deficit that allowed pressure in this game; it was Greg Roman, Bozeman and Herbert failing to adjust to the stunts that meant they got out-schemed.
- On JKโs first big run (see video below) it was wonderful to see Roman use the Raidersโ gap shooting aggression against them. With the Raiders running a wide front they had the perfect call running a simple inside zone concept which allowed a free release for Zion and Bozeman to climb up and seal the two linebackers responsible for the A gap.
- The Raiders were clearly expecting a pass out of 11 personnel so this tendency breaker paid off very well.ย
- Hayden Hurstโs downfield block got JK another 25 yards too.ย
- Herbert changed the direction of the run at the LOS after seeing Diablo (a former safety) on the weak side knowing the Raiders donโt like to switch their ILBs once theyโre set. Spillane has the strength to close a gap but Zion on Divine was not an immortal matchup and Dobbins had plenty of room to cut into and go. Good work all round.ย
- JKโs move on Moehrig deserves some extra love too, his footwork has always been clean but to get his hips square to the sideline and back vertical again in that time frame shows his explosiveness is back.
- The play design on the fake bubble to Derius was very nice, the timing was on point because other than one player, the Raidersโ slow-played it well so this could have gone wrong if it was executed poorly.ย
- Passing concept wise the one thing I never like to see is mirror image concepts to both sides of the formation especially out of light personnel . Youโre either giving your QB a full field progression read which means the timing is off or a half field read with wasted routes that would never be targeted.
- Where this will benefit is against teams that like to disguise their coverage from two high shells as Herbert can read the rolling safety and throw away from their motion.
- Down the stretch the pass protection was really good, the Raiders were too tired to run stunts and in base blocks they gave nothing up.
- The reverse to Derius Davis (see video below) was a very well designed play that was shamefully let down by Bozeman deciding to turn to find someone behind him (for some reason) and slipping over right in DDโs path. If we see that again itโs a house call and Iโm very confident in that. This call is staying in touch with the league wide Week 1 trend of wide sweeping plays to counter the deep alignment of corners on early downs, so Roman might not be as out of touch as some fans think he is.


Great article Ryan – again, THANK YOU for taking the time to put together high-quality analysis.
I saw that 4 Raiders were fined for the BS dirty play:
Palmer was also fined $11,225
Looking forward to the Raiders get their asses kicked by the Ravens today.
Family Trust Respect.
This is such a great article and the comments are so informative as well. I wish I had more insightful things to say but I can’t compet(yet) with the amount of football knowledge that is oozing out of this article and the comments.
Let’s hope that the offense can put up more dominant tape this Sunday!
Arnie, I totally agree with you on the level of discussion that takes place with this special group of people. I feel that you and I are in the same position here. We may not know the intricacies of the game to the deep level of some here, but you definately get the big picture/common sense view of the game and this team. Besides, you are a great fan, so keep posting!
@arne-sixpakfrombelgiumย Keep the comments coming, Arne. Yours are more insightful than you think and often complement and balance out discussions/conversations very well. A comment does not have to be of football knowledge to give light to a conversation, and more often than not it’s the other way around. Mine aren’t in either category and often incoherent but it’s my accepted role in the community to stretch the lower end of it while people like you,
FoutsMFIC and the rest pull it from the top end to give it a better balance.ย
Hope it’s much cooler in Belgium than over here in southern California. After a scorching hot Summer, I would be ready for a month long vacation in Norway or Iceland. Or best, more wins which have more cooling effect as it’s better “than penicillin” according to someone.ย ย
I shared that Bozeman clip on the Derius Davis reverse in a separate Messenger thread with Andy & Jack, and I may have used some very colourful language to describe Bozeman’s heft and general abilities on that play ๏ปฟ๐ ๏ปฟ
Good post
Ryan Watkins. Enjoyed reading it.
Fair call, pointing out Zion’s deficiencies in pass pro. But I think it’s also important to mention that he played a key role in winning the team the game on these three consecutive snaps in Q4: https://twitter.com/TDU_Chargers/status/1833675731114795274
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I sincerely hope Bozeman proves me wrong.
You’re right I sometimes overlook blocks like Zion’s here because of how good everything was around it but I should have given him the credit he deserves. His run blocking blocking down the stretch was solid so at least he’s in great condition.
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Not sure where in this year’s draft could they have addressed the need at center with Ladd as 2nd-rd pick and Jr Colson as 3rd-rd pick. I believe they will make it a priority next year to address it in the draft or free agency.ย
No team had signed Conner Williams after a 2023 late season torn ACL. He wouldn’t be able to play until late season this year if at all. He was a top rated center in 2022 and 2023 before the season ending injury, a better center than Bozeman for sure but he couldn’t help this team this year, I don’t think.ย
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As for Williams? I’m aware of his availability. I also think that he’s going to return and be worth the investment. Apparently the Seahawks do too. I’m not the only one here disappointed that he got away.
Oh, we’re talking about centers?! Well don’t mind if I do!
Tui – Connor Williams actually started for the Seahawks last weekend and only allowed one pressure. It wasn’t his best outing, but by PFF standards, he still graded above 68.0.
When I wrote this article in May, I wasย really hoping the Bolts would sign Connor whenever he was ready. The top of the center market might break $20M next offseason, and top of the market is where Williams was headed before his injury. I wasย 100% on board with signing him for a 1 yr, $4-6mil range deal, even if he wasn’t available right away. At his worse, he’d big incredible depth for the second half of the season. At his best, if he suited up Week 1 like he did, he will likely be an above-average to elite center, and command a large payday in the spring.
The best part of onboarding him post-draft like I was clamoring for was that he wouldn’t cost us a comp pick this year, and by having him in our system, extending him next year if he bounces back wouldn’t affect the formula, even if we have to pay him “elite center” monies. That, and he’d presumably be an upgrade when healthy.
Now, Hortiz and Harbaugh get a LONG leash of trust from me. But if we can’t backseat drive a little bit, what fun is all this?ย 🤣ย
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Regarding the draft, I actually was DMing
Ryan Watkins at the time that I really, really thought we should have traded back into the top of the 2nd. The historical run on QBs and Tackles pushed aย ton of first-round talent to the top of the first. I simultaneously loved the Ladd pick, but thought we could have really benefitted from trading back in and grabbing Newton, Kool-Aid, or preferably JPJ or Frazier. In that scenario, our future first may have been overvalued by a team that assumed we would be rebuilding in 2024 and might have a losing record. I think we could have swapped our 2025 1st for a top-10 2024 2nd… maybe with a late round pick swap benefitting the other team if needed.ย
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Again, they totally have my trust, but I would feel better having a building block at center that I was really confident in, and minimum-salary Bozeman there as depth or competing at guard.
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I take back what I said about Connor Williams not suiting up early in the season. Good for him and for Seattle for signing him while some teams were hesitant bc of the injury and for Miami for not wanting to resign him after he had his best two years with them. I, too liked Williams a lot especially since after the team opted not to draft a center. JPJ or Frazier who I was hoping for in the 2nd round, but I wasn’t upset with Ladd’s pick either after the Jose Alt’s pick.ย ย
I believe Roman and Jim Harbaugh valued Bozeman’s run blocking and his familiarity with the offensive scheme over his pass blocking since a center gets more help inside with pass blocking. Gus, Dobbins & Haskins are solid line pass blockers; chip very well and a wall against inside blitzing. Man, Dobbins was a hell of a pass blocker against Raiders’ blitzing LB’s — that was impressive.
With Dissly and Hurst on the edges in passing situations, the pass blocking tends to slide inside which helps the center. Didn’t really show a whole lot of it against the Raiders but I think it’s going to improve as the season progresses.ย ย ย
The Chiefs took Nourzad in Rnd 5 (Pick 160 overall). Heโs a back-up currently. Played 112 preseason snaps with a PFF Grade of 64.8.
The Rams took Limmer in Rnd 6 (Pick 218 overall). He won a starting job after playing 94 preseason snaps with an PFF Grade of 73.4 (his pass protection grade was 85.9). Against the Lions last week he played 41 snaps at Center with a PFF Grade of 58.9 (allowing 2 pressures (hit + hurry) from 26 pass blocking reps).
I would have been happy with, and if I were GM I would have drafted, one of those two players instead of Tarheeb Still. But you could play this game with every draft pick and I was happy with the Chargersโ class and process as a whole.
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Trade down from 1.5 for 2 later 1st round picks and drafted a different OT plus JPJ (Oregon) / Barton (Duke)… I was in favor of trading down and thought it was a very strong possibility the Chargers would do that and draft OT/C in the 1st
Draft JPJ (Oregon) or Frazier (West Virginia) instead of trading up for McConkey
Draft Bortolini (Wisconsin) instead of Eboigbe
Draft Van Pran-Granger (Georgia), Nourzad (Penn State), or Monk (Duke) instead of either Still or Hart
Draft McMahon (NC State) or Limmer (Arkansas) instead of Vidal
Draft Samac (Michigan State) instead of Rice
Draft any remaining center, including any center who became a UDFA, instead of Johnson
Sign a free agent center, either in addition to or instead of Bozeman; a variation of this would have been to sign Conner Williams, understanding that Bozeman would hold down the position until he was ready
I’m not saying I would like all of those tradeoffs or that all of these named players would ultimately be successful, but that is a lot of options. I’m very happy with Alt, but still not truly convinced that the right move was not to trade back and take a different OT early and their favorite center either late 1st or 2nd.
For example:
OT Alt + WR McConkey + DB Still vs.
OT Fashanu (or alternate OT) + WR Brian Thomas Jr. (or other WRs or CB Arnold, etc.) + C/IOL JPJ + TE Stover (or any number of DBs or RBs)
I love Alt and McConkey, and I’ll be a big fan of theirs going forward. I also don’t think there is a wrong answer here, assuming good drafting. But I still think that second group is probably superior to the first group. I also half expected this because drafting 2 starting OL plus a TE seems like such a Harbaugh-Roman thing to do.
Even sticking with the draft as it played out, as I posted here, I thought the Chargers should sign Conner Williams, with the understanding that he might not take over as starter until 2025. They could afford it, especially at a discounted price due to his injury. The only reasons I can see not to do it:
Chargers medical staff didn’t sign off on his long term health
He isn’t a fit for Roman’s preferred blocking scheme (I don’t know this, saying it is a possible reason)
@tau837ย Good points. I think most of us were hoping they would trade back for two 1st-rd picks, or one 1st and high 2nd & 3rd, etc. I believe Ortiz and Jim would have gone down that direction but I don’t believe anyone made them any offer.ย ย
The Ladd’s pick was something they had to make considering the big hole in the WR unit w/out Allen and MW. It would have been too expensive to sign an impact FA wide receiver if they didn’t draft McConkey then to sign a FA center like Bozeman. Conner Williams would have been my choice, too, but Roman already had a rapport w/ Rozeman. Will it hold up? We’ll soon find out.ย ย
I’m leaving comments as I read,
Ryan Watkins .
I thought Herbert had a “poor game” for his standards. He took some checkdowns over developing plays (as you’ve mentioned), and, of course, he also did a few great things that saved the team.
The one play that bothered me most which you’ve shared but not called out, is on the Turnover Worthy Play throw to Palmer that was nearly intercepted, I thought he had QJ coming open earlier in the progression on the Dig route, and seemed to be looking there first, but turned it down. He chose instead to throw it to Palmer with two defenders in the area. I know the FS was lurking around the Dig, but for me that’s NFL open for a guy with Herbert’s arm talent and without being in the QB room, it looks like that’s where the play was designed to go + QJ got open.
I forgive Herbert because you can see when his eyes first go there, there is a safety hanging over the top. But if he hung in there a touch longer before getting across to the other side of the formation, he would’ve seen a better opening to throw the ball I reckon. Anyway, this is just splitting hairs. But it was definitely a rustier version of Justin Herbert this week. Patrick Graham and his coaches would take the Pass Defense performance from his team against Herbert every day of the week.
I did notice QJ coming open on this play however I think Justin saw that middle linebacker and thought he might drift into his intended window as with the safety over the top, he would have had to keep this ball down. Plus I think Herbert prefers to hit Sails than Digs so maybe that’s why he went for that option. Both routes were open though which is a positive overall.